[info-mcl] Fwd: Can we get some price quotes?

[Raffael Cavallaro]

On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Alexander Repenning wrote:

> Once developers made the switch and paid the $1000 to  buy LispWorks  
> instead of financing Clozure to build MCL 6 there will be no way back.

I, and I'm sure others, have already paid for LispWorks. Nevertheless,  
we would be very happy to return to MCL/Closure Common Lisp for the  
same reasons you gave for not wanting to move to LispWorks. This is  
*Common* Lisp after all - GUI code can be kept separate in order to  
minimize the pain of moving among implementations.

The reality is this, even you recognize that at some point legacy code  
that depends on the deprecated QuickDraw APIs needs to be updated to  
rely on some combination of Quartz/Core Graphics/OpenGL/Cocoa. Clozure  
have limited resources. They believe, and I believe as well, that  
these resources are better targeted at a fully modern Mac OS X Common  
Lisp on intel with a Cocoa GUI rather than using their resources to  
resurrect a QuickDraw dead end via Rosetta.

I can say for my part that should Clozure dedicate significant  
resources to a Rosetta compatible 32 bit ppc lisp to the extent that  
openmcl/Clozure Common Lisp remains unstable/unusable for Cocoa  
application delivery on intel Macs, then I will have no choice but to  
stay with LispWorks as much as I might prefer to use Clozure Common  
Lisp.

regards,

Ralph

Raffael Cavallaro, Ph.D.
raffaelcavallaro at mac.com