[info-mcl] ANNOUNCE: MCLIDE 1.0b

[Robert Schaaf]

Looks great, but it crashes on launch for me.

> Unhandled exception 10 at 0x8fe010e3, context->regs at #xb040d39c
> Exception occurred while executing foreign code

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Alexander Repenning wrote:

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> On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:52 AM, peter wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Robert Schaaf <rwschaaf at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I so agree. As I read it, at the moment on CLZ if you want say pure
>> Common Lisp plus Cocoa, you are on your own.  Clozure told me in early
>> 09 that there would be a separation of the appropriate modules.  But
>> nothing's happened yet that I know of.  As it is, you have either low
>> level CL or the full Hemlock bolognese API, or we get our knitting
>> needles out to build our own.
> 
> There is funded work underway to build all this via XMLisp
> 
>> 
>> My current dream machine would be MCLIDE + CLZ (CLOS) + Cocoa + OpenGL
>> (without XML) + shrinkwrap delivery tool (appgen ... to Mac, PC and
>> smart phone of course).  The focus being on quality application
>> deliverables for the open market (ie. not for s/w developers).
> 
> 
> Free, open source cross platform Common Lisp including Cocoa, OpenGL, ...  CLOS based interfaces, ...  already here. Here is an icon editor example in CCL (image file loading, OpenGL rendering, down/up/moved/dragged mouse handlers, color pickers, alpha channels, selection management, ...):
> 
> <Clozure CL64ScreenSnapz002.png>
> 
> same code running in Windows XP with CCL win + Cocotron:
> 
> 
> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
> 
> 
> Sorry, you can run this with without touching XML but to define dynamic layouts you will have to write or generate xml. 
> 
> 
>> 
>> And the first communal task in hand would be to get onto the Cocoa
>> port of Fred etc.
> 
> Hemlock works reasonably well and now also works - still incomplete - on Windows. This is something that MCL never did and unfortunately MCLIDE never will. 
> 
>> 
>> But as all this is communal/collective effort, it's roll our sleeves
>> up time, and follow Terje's superb lead IMHO.  Every little bit helps.
> 
> As I said, this is a funded effort. If it is not cross platform we cannot pay for it nor spend time on it. 
> 
> All the best,  Alex
> 
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